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Old 03-19-2021, 08:41 PM
Vexenu Vexenu is offline
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I support azxten's efforts here and salute his perseverance in digging up evidence. Everyone who played in the Classic era knows Enchanters were nothing like they are on P1999. The reason OP is getting such pushback is not because he's wrong, but because so many P199 players have an Enchanter they use to solo/duo farm with. Reminiscent of the old quote that "it's difficult to get a man to understand something when his livelihood depends on him not understanding it".

It's too late to undo the damage OP Enchanters have caused at this point, but it would be very nice if they were brought classically in line for the next iteration of Green. I think the evidence he's gathered is very compelling if people would actually bother to look at it. Also keep in mind that some of the best evidence that Enchanters in general and charm in particular is OP is the glaring LACK of evidence in wayback EQ posts of discussion about exploiting the power of charm. This is exactly the same situation we had with combat bind wound, which was another ridiculously unclassic mechanic that people were exploiting. They tried to claim there was no evidence that it didn't exist in classic. Which was correct. Because it wasn't a thing. The best evidence against it was the fact that NO ONE TALKED ABOUT IT. Whereas if it had existed it would have been talked about non-stop especially on the Monk forums as a soloing tactic. But there was literally not a single mention of it anywhere. Routine Enchanter charm soloing occupies a similar situation in the classic era. It wasn't talked about simply because there was nothing to talk about! Everyone who tried it recognized that it was basically suicidal and horribly XP inefficient, especially indoors and solo/unbuffed. It wasn't a thing back then and it shouldn't be a thing on P1999. But not only is it a thing here, it is THE thing, to the extent that it's literally the defining aspect of the class on P1999 above and beyond buffing and CC. Absolutely unclassic.