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Originally Posted by Kaveh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But why do lesbians either dress like lumberjacks or are fine as hell? There’s no inbetween

Also, my daughter loved that movie Juno back in the day and now Ellen Page is a guy

It’s too much for an old man like me. Not hatred, I just don’t understand what happened in my 56 years. Growing up you just beat the fuck out of people who deserved it and otherwise didn’t mess with people who you knew you didn’t get along with. Live and let live. Now everyone is in everyone else’s face about everything. And it’s weird because suicide, anxiety, depression, obesity, etc are increasing. We’ve become worse people inwardly even as violence and crime have declined, and I guess we needed to take our bellicose nature to another battlefield? Just my two cents

-Not Danth

well, I might participate in the getting in the face a bit especially with you. It's not something I ever used to do. It's because you flat refuse to just let "the trans thing" go, you and others. Although it doesn't seem to make you virulently hateful toward me or anything, there are a lot of people out there right now who are super fucking radicalized. Like more radicalized than the anti-gays were in the 80s. Being trans and ugly, or even just trans and NOT super hot, means people fucking mean mug you at the grocery store and all over the place. Walmart greeters are rude to you, service industry ppl emphasize words like "man" and "dude" with boiling hatred in their voice. So it bothers me that you will not show respect to the trans girls here, who are actually fairly accomplished and passable in general btw.

I lived the life of a gay boi once and I didn't think I minded much that constant humor about my orientation from my more masculine guy pals. But being a gay boi is something you turn on and off, & you don't have to tell anyone you aren't comfortable with. Being an ugly or nonpassing tran is different, it's something everyone sees, more comparable with racism, except the hate is perhaps even more virulent as ppl see all kinds of sin and pedophilia and weird shit projected into there, even though in reality transition really has nothing to do with anything that harms others. And I guess there's a reason most Blacks aren't particularly cool with N word ribs even from fairly close White friends. and make no mistake, it is DEFINITELY harder by many measures to be trans than dark skinned.

Everyone knows the suicide stats on trans people. Yes there are different contributing issues, but there is one thing I am POSITIVE is the biggest contributor: the isolation, the public discomfort and disdain, the judgment of others and also urself for not being pretty enough. And it is real enough shit to kill. So, the fact that you never let the trans thing go, won't just use female pronouns, even if the alternative is always "humorous", does make me want to get in your face. I don't think you understand how barbaric a thing it is to do to your friends, truly. Just a little bit of kindness there would affect the way others perceive us in this place substantially, you being an older male who the younger supercucks like filbus instinctively simp to.

Of course I troll u plenty and probably deserve it to an extent, so I'm not particularly embittered toward you. But knowing there are other girls out there who haven't survived the big hurdle of getting used to their new identity makes me want to perform better than what I saw when I was really suffering through the hard part of this. When the trans girls here, with no better, more dignified example, and perhaps with no place to be themselves even at home, were cucking themselves to their knees trying to curry favor with the hostile rednecks of the board, all engaged in a desperate bottomfeeding submissiveness toward people who are bad faith actors and must be disregarded with extreme prejudice.

When I saw C***ly was convinced by a Lulzsect insult to stop wearing her glasses that made her look pretty, that bugged the shit out of me. She's decided to hate me now, and I hope this won't be taken as some kind of license for any shit b/c im not throwing stones, but witnessing what appeared to me to be effective abuse made me rly angry. This shit isn't a game, it's really not. I want to protect that person and anyone else who might be targeted.

So I guess I am a little aggro and in people's face now more than I used to, and happy to snitch and report, because I hate how abusive people are to the girls here. I don't feel "live and let live" toward people like mblake, who knowing me for nearly 10 years had nothing but maniacally vicious things to say about me based totally on my identity. I don't want to know people so creepy that they hang out with well-intentioned people who ought to be made honorary friends 4 years of posting ago, while hating them with a desperate passion. That's really ugly stuff I just don't care to be acquainted with. Ideally I would carve out a little niche of civility for peeps here, where women'd be treated like fkng women by the generally-civil boomers who play this old game, and the occasional humorous slur wouldn't be backed with like actual substantive psychotic hatred. I can go on 4chan or k*w*f*rms if I want to talk to murderers and ragey certifiables. And if any area of common gathering could be sane about trans women it should be this one, the community for the old game which for most of us allowed us to explore our gender identity even before we knew treatment would be an option. There's a reason for lots of us being here and I wish it were reflected in the community, & even think it can be if a certain few people move on.

I know not everyone here gets to enjoy that sense of normalcy IRL in their home. I have seen some TRULY disturbing households, girls with C cups living with mom and dad still "closeted" at 30. Completely pinned by the world, unable to get a job or do anything with themself because they are stuck in identity limbo. And I just can't settle for letting a place where I exist pile on the ugliness and alienation to those people. It's a potentially lethal matter. And you know I have a sense of humor Patriam, edgy jokes aren't what I'm done with. It's the undergirding hatred, which has been festering extra strongly in our demographic between their 20s and now 30s(40s?), particularly as the trashier end of nerd media became more radical and right wing.

So that's why I get in your face and basically the only trigger for me getting in anyone's face. I never used to be like that for anything, but the last few years of struggle almost killed me, and in so doing, taught me a few things. It is worth establishing mutual respect with people and delineating oneself as separate from the sick cannibal mob that is *everywhere*, although you probably don't see them yourself being a regular male. On any of those days where I was on death's door, just some developments toward the positive on this retarded silly board might have made the difference in staying my hand. So I can't just let it go, or be totally content with you as a person while you continually reinforce the alienation that drives 40% of us to suicide attempt. I hope u understand why I am so cringe now, and sometimes rather sharp with u.

So tell a trans gal she's pretty some time, u dont have to have sex with her after. and you'll make her day. And the girls who witness it won't get in your face so much. I think you might actually be a pretty decent guy, but if you actually have an inflexible bone in there that prevents you from treating us with respect, couldn't meet me IRL without being impolite, etc., then you need work.

(I know you were talking about a larger cultural phenomenon, but I think I exhibit what you refer to too in this particular way so I wrote this. and it got out of hand in length. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])