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Originally Posted by Gwaihir
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The fact that you would devolve the conversation, and the message I deliver, into an attack on my person, in a vain attempt to refute the message instead of addressing the message; thereby attempting to inflict SHAME as punishment for your own internal reaction to the message, is more telling of who you are, than it is who I am.
I hope this resonates with you, and somewhere down in your twisted, wicked shred of whatever's left of your heart, you find a way to gravitate toward Love, as opposed to your left-hand gravitation toward Hate, and divisiveness, which is both spiritually and physically manifest in your own refusal to acknowledge who, and what, you are.
Pride---------\|/-------Strength
------------->TRUTH------------->
Shame-------/|\-------Humility
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Well, I was trying to be playful with it and not actually go for the jugular or anything, just so you know! I got a little carried away painting a comic picture, and the embellishment was for the sake of my verbal roll and not for how intensely I intended to insult or harm (nothing beyond the bounds of horseplay was intended, but i suppose i got carried away and i'm sorry).
The truth is, I don't react much at all to "the message", because it's all encoded and obfuscated and your "transmission" of it seems more like a self-directed meditative practice or something. Insofar as it is about love, I am absolutely in favor of it, and I acknowledge I do pick up some good vibes from you so there is something there working. But are you really preaching, Gwaihir, or do you usually merely strike a pose?
back to my intent before, though, and it's not about left-handedness -- I think by retreating into small cul-de-sacs of ritualistic behavior and constant invocation of arcane old field-peasant ergot chants and obscure biblical terminology that connote pedophile cannibal ancestors and look a little like an attempt to inflict terror is intrinsically divisive. I think it is really strange to come at me for being "divisive" when I'm reaching out to you over and over in interest and jousting. Am I really so divisive?
Well, maybe I came off a little harsher than intended in the last message, but I really just felt like painting a comical picture about the obscurity of the proper nouns you use and the apparent mania behind them. I am sorry about the nastiness that can be read in there. I don't think I intended it at the time, fwiw. Your wife is pretty, looks unpretentious & confident btw and I was a little mad at the other forum posters' trolls about that, but they will never know a good woman unless they catch one on her painted up day. I really am interested in your journey and well-being, and I mean that. sorry if I get carried away again in the future too -_- i am usually clutching myself giggling spastically irl while i write it in a very embarrassing ordeal fwiw.
But, again, I say I am far from a divisive type person. my big weakness is wanting to relate to people even beyond what is good for me. that said, you are not a venomous person even after i've teased you a bunch and so i don't think this is such a case. but our clear differences in approach and my effort to engage form an example of how I really am interested in knowing people of all types.
Divisive, me? I am teasing you about your consideration of removing your children from the public sphere because of political messaging and how anxious we all are being made, perhaps primarily not through our own fault but by repugnant overlords. You may not be "the divider", but how could such an action, a retreat inward, be anything but to succumb to divisiveness and so join it? Isn't the man who leaves his community because he has lost his tolerance for the faults of the many,
and perhaps lost tolerance too for some of their virtues, the man engaged in division?
I appreciate that you are horrified in looking at the world culture, and I think that is a reasonable feeling. I also think a lack of appreciation for things spiritual and ritual and truly big does play into the psychological maladies of our collective. But I am not sure your communication is intended to interest people from over the fence into spiritual practice at all -- in fact, it looks a little hostile to me the way you do it, like seeing in sun and safety foreboding gang tags with the names of groups you vaguely recognize, which might become more important when night falls. And even more pertinently, I beg you not to take your children from the civic sphere, the ordeal of public schooling which is their only uncontrolled congregation with members of their community, one of the very last tortures which molds civilian Americans together in a collective suffering and training, forces them to relate to people they'd rather never deign to meet -- or suffer the anxiety to face -- and forces them to face the standards of the culture in some way, however misbegotten those may be. Don't wall your kids in, man. THAT's division and it'll stunt them.
Having said all that, I reiterate my call to humility! You profess to know Christ don't you? (I'm truly not quite sure, but I also haven't googled ur posts as much as I could. BUT how could you expect readers to be more diligent even than I have been with you, confronted with such impenetrable obscura and apparent right-signalling? It must incense me, you calling me divisive!!)
And, feeling strongly about this and your stewardship of kids -- perhaps this is how I got carried away in my mockery earlier
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] but keep poasting with me, i swear i am ur pal. you'res truly.