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Originally Posted by Byue
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Look, would you be having the same discussion about low level offenders of any crimes?
The footsoldier of organized crimes are being manipulated by the "real" ghouls into doing things they would not otherwise do so should we let them go also?
This woman was in full tactical gear so basically, she knew there would be trouble but decided to go anyway so this is beyond just being a footsolider.
Can her.
The leader is already walking way freely, if you don't can them what sort of message does it send?
Also, with this type of talk, can we free everyone who was arrested at a black lives matter protest or did these people commit a crime and this women attacking the capitol did not?
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lot of bad faith argument and vindictiveness. smells like tit-for-tat to me. The repeated "wat about the other side" indicates strongly that this is walnut brained tit-for-tat vindictiveness. The Imperial system is brutal to everyone, full stop. I'm not a solid colored hat wearer. It annoys the shit out of me that everytime I have a discussion here, I am spoken to like I am wearing a solid colored hat.
I don't think organized crime for profit is on par with political protest or riot. I reject the frame of that analogy. But I think minor criminals should not be tortured and raped in our jails, yes. Further, larping in tac uniform isn't proof of intent. They are larpers and the uniform is a political statement in itself. You know this. You are speaking in bad faith.
I do think the organizers of the BLM riot should be prosecuted too, dependent upon their views and corrosiveness, and random people who joined a mob in venturing thru a busted window let off. Everything is dependent upon the discretion of the rulers' appointed officials; we are well beyond principle and blind justice here. So find the race haters, psychopaths and sickos of the group and choose them. Let off most women, 18 year olds, the mentally ill and others who don't deserve it. We can return to principled justice once our centers of incarceration do not intrinsically constitute torture on par with hilltop Roman stockades.
I am not sure what I said that would indicate I would feel differently about one group than the other. I would love to see the system stop victimizing people, whether its first passed-over victim is blue or red. YOU advocate additional atrocity in recompense for transgressions against your hat color. Your monochromatic prejudice makes discussion with you tedious. There is a picture of me on the left. I am not wearing a solid colored hat. Can we move beyond you assuming I am wearing a solid colored hat now, please? I have already spoken about this with you in PMs. If you cannot escape from that frame, if you are locked soundly within it, you and I will not get anywhere talking. Or shall I say,
you will not get anywhere talking with anybody.
You will never convince me that advocating for cruel and unusual punishment is acceptable for random people. I only say we gotta toss personally corrosive organizers, grifters who make their living separating people, in there very reluctantly, because the hooked rusty knife is the only tool we have to work with for maintaining law and order. You exhibit a textbook case of tribalist vendetta. That's neolib shit and I just am not interested. If you can be sold on sentencing little people to rape and mental scarring in horrific American prisons so easily, you are only separated from war criminals by lack of power. It's clear you only want to do it because then it would be "fair" to "your side". Hit me with this hat shit again and I am fully bored.
signed, grumpy cuz i slept 12 hours and my meds havent kicked in + im dehydrated.