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Old 02-03-2021, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
In fairness Loramin, I've got a 65+ shaman with some AA on live, but I remember my experience of meleeing on a shaman in live to be completely different to that on p1999.

The mob hp/hit ranges seem correct, but the attack / accuracy / armour class / avoidance feels very different. This isn't due to p1999 mud flation either, I'm talking about my barby shaman in his 20s wearing self made banded with a store bought 2 handed hammer - comparable gear to what us idiots were using in live.
I'm sure there are some significant differences ... but I'm talking about Project 1999. The only reason I referenced live was to point out that I wasn't some n00b that didn't know how to play the class when I started here (in fact, I literally have tried to "re-create" Loramin 1.0's experience here with Loramin 2.0, in terms of leveling in many of the same places and such) ... but I'm not talking about live, I'm saying on P99 Shaman melee damage is < 1/3 total damage, at least most of the time, once you get past (roughly) 20.

There's a very simple way anyone who wants to can prove me wrong: parse a level 30 Shaman meleeing something, while also parsing their pet and DoT damage. Since all I have to go on is one subjective experience leveling a Shaman (with a now impossible weapon), I'd certainly welcome more objective evidence.

But until such evidence is presented, I'm sticking to my subjective experience.

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Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Point being: Shaman melee damage output in era-appropriate equipment stinks
Agreed. But even with a BSH at 35 ... my experience was that it too stunk. Well, not stunk (I'd be lying if I said I didn't notice the procs; it's a JBB click at a much lower level!) ... but just not enough to outweigh DoT/pet damage. I still often found it more efficient not to melee as a result, or to do mixtures (eg. trying to "joust" for a proc while root/rotting or pet tanking).

But again, happy to change my mind if someone shows me a parse of (say) a 35 Shaman with a good ratio weapon and haste clearly doing more damage than pet/DoTs.
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