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Originally Posted by Detoxx
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You guys were included. On the mobs you contest. Sev and Gore. You were even included in mobs you dont contest but claim that someday you will (Statue and KT). As for everything else, your presence was non-existent. Even the GMs knew this and made it clear that if you wanted more input in those areas, you should contest them more regularly.
It wasnt our call, it was theirs.
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Your definition of contested is carefully curated to meet your own ends. To say that quakes don't count as contested is disingenuous. They do. Kittens was there in force when you trained riot mid zlex on a quake and was actively "contesting" trips against them. We have teamed up with riot a good number of times to compete more effectively in a similar way to how you and AG team up. It just wasn't a permanent agreement. We sit in tov on pop day when timers are stacked to go after targets of opportunity (literally one to two weeks after every quake). We have contested both you and Riot and Koi. We contested AG for Jorrleag recently. We raced Riot to a Lord Kriezenn in the last few months, them from trips and us from the Aary pit. We have contested Aary on natural respawns head to head against other guilds a number of times in the last year etc etc etc. This is just the stuff I can think of off the top of my head that has happened in the last year.
The decision to exclude us from those conversations was made by the GM's but it was also a perspective heavily pushed by you and your officers in the UN in the lead up to that decision and thus you bear some responsibility denying us a voice in rule changes that do in fact effect us. I'm not upset about this, I am just pointing out how moving forward there is literally 0 reason to exclude us from any discussions about rule changes in ToV (including Vulak).