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Old 12-02-2020, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Lizard1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
You are stupid, they started with titanium and modified it from there, a violation which required a written agreement once daybreak bought soe IP
Your "deeply biting criticism" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] is missing the fact that P99 operated for nearly a decade prior to the agreement ... and also the fact it's you who modifies the Titanium client; R&N just provide a patch file. There's nothing illegal about them writing a (non-copyrighted) patch for some old software that happens to be copyrighted.

Really, the most potential legal risk for R&N isn't even law yet; it's the potential outcome of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google...e_America,_Inc. If Oracle wins, companies can claim a copyright on the way a server talks to the client (their "API"). If that happens, even implementing an old server that follows the API Verant developed 20 years ago could be considered a violation of Veran'ts "copyright on the API".

But even if the Supremes screw up and rule the wrong way (it looks like they might: in arguments they didn't even seem to understand what an API was [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]) ... there's still an incredibly important difference in that case: lawyer money. Oracle has a reason to spend millions going after Google for that case, because they want to "own" any implementation of Java (even if someone else wrote every line of code in it). There is not even close to a similar financial incentive here.

And it is that which truly protects this place. Again, the Daybreak agreement was just about making everyone feel good: P99 scratched Daybreak's back (by delaying a server release until after a new Daybreak server came out, and by generally maintaining positive vibes with them) ... and P99 got even more assurance that legal action (which already wasn't happening) really wouldn't happen. It was about feels, not meaningful legal protection.
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