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Old 03-19-2010, 07:53 PM
Scrubby McGee Scrubby McGee is offline
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The banded trivial levels are too low for classic. I honestly don't know what they were in classic, but I remember them being higher than 115.

Both the Plate trivials and the banded trivials were lowered when Cultural armor was added in the tail end of luclin. I'm sure some other trivs were lowered too.

I don't know how to find out what they are, though. Currently, I'm trying to search old smithing walkthroughs for the 8th shawl hoping I can find one made before the change.

The EQ traders forum only allows searches up to 2003, so no luck there.

I'm not really good at searching for things, though.

I did find this old guide in EQ traders that supports my argument, but doesn't contain the entire trivial list of what the trivial levels actually were.

http://www.eqtraders.com/articles/ar...r=040100000000

Additionally, the entire Wu's ensemble isn't classic. Only the gloves were in the game when I started right before Kunark.

I do not remember plate being made until much later, when they added the dye components to the game. Plate shouldn't be made at all at this point in time, but it's been available for too long now especially before the sol ro armor when it shouldn't have existed. I think this was also when the skinning knife was added. In classic, you got what skins dropped and couldn't drop them down a grade with the knife.

From a post in http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq/show...ivials-on-Test there is the words:
"Once upon a time, You could go all the way to 248 with Fine Steel. There were fewer 250 smiths then than there are now."

It may be possible to contact the people who run EQ traders and see if they have any old trivial list archives.

Another edit: Dairy spoon was added in luclin.

EQ traders has clearly updated/changed site code, so I'm not even sure if the old trivs are still around.

I'm going to start pulling trivials from the thread http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq/show...tes-HERE/page2 if I can

It lists the trivs when stuff was updated, it's a long thread, maybe there's a summary.

Edit also:
http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq/memb...iami-DenMother created the site, so if anyone knows where the information is, she does.
Last edited by Scrubby McGee; 03-19-2010 at 08:40 PM..