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Old 10-21-2020, 09:41 AM
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It had nothing to do with the United States toppling a duly elected prime minister in 1953. Give me a break. As for leaving, I was taken out of Iran by my parents to Pakistan, then the UAE, at age 9, because it wasn’t safe for bahais.
Please tell me how this example alone doesn't eliminate your comparisons to America, this isn't something that has happened to anyone living in the USA for over 100 Years. America is the greatest country to be born into or move to as any combination of gender/race/religion the world has ever known. Iran doesn't have a claim on that title in it's entire lengthy existence and quite likely has the claim on it's inverse for segments of it's existence.


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As for the trade deficit, that was a comment in response to “Trump is holding China accountable.” He is not. As for why we must run deficits, the “supply of currency” argument is one promoted by economists. The same group who explain why 0% interest is good. As ive posited, I do not believe housing prices being 10x the average wage (where we’re headed) is a good thing, that course being the consequence of 0% interest rates
Is he doing everything right when it comes to China? Certainly not. Is he doing more than any other president in my lifetime? Yes, by far.

No one wants 0% interest rates, nice strawman.

Housing prices are not great globally but again, the US is not anything to get worried about on this front. Quit spreading lies or quit reading crap news.
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Bottom line: Trump fixed zero of our long term issues,
We would have to agree on long-term issues before you start to throw this claim around.

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But he did introduce new violations of norms, like challenging elections. Interesting, since he was elected and had the house and senate for half of his first term. Those things are the first steps towards collapse of the system, as happened in Rome following the second Punic war.
He has not challenged elections, this is yet another white supremacy line of faux news you eat up because you are just out here confirming your bias. Trump isn't the boogeyman. Do you think introducing an untested voting format in THIS election is a wise idea when there is no reason we can't hold mostly normal voting processes? If you are going to pretend mail in voting isn't ripe with opportunity to be exploited then you aren't to be taken seriously.

What about the left challenging norms? You know like men are men, women are women and 8 year olds shouldn't be allowed to change gender? You don't think that crap has far reach? Please.

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If you were smarter, you’d realize people who believe the things you do destroyed Iran and will destroy America, and that someone like myself, who has witnessed one country collapse due to the stupidity and shortsightedness of Americans, doesn’t want to see another country fall. The institutions are absolutely critical. A president challenging the elections needs to be repudiated BIGLY
You speak of institutions, yet you aren't saying much about the left wanting to pack the court, expand the senate by adding states, removing the filibuster, using impeachment as a political tool. THOSE are institutions that if compromised could cause serious long-term issues. But sure, our President using crass language is going to destroy us. Makes sense.


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It’s immaterial. If the senate is lost, you’re going to either double down on Trumpism or realize how deeply unpopular it is. Then you have to decide whether you become a principled conservative or a dumb ass, who talks to an iranian about how Iran collapsed while conveniently ignoring a century of British and American policy designed to subjugate a people
No you see that's not how politics work here. We don't end up falling apart because of our system in place. If your side loses you don't throw a fit, you accept it and move on because politics at the Federal level here has very little impact locally. This system has brought the globe out of poverty. World Hunger is essentially a non-issue now due to the West, primarily America. Sorry your state couldn't stand up to the changing times and refused to adapt. No one cares about Iran because they are a terrorist state lead by warlords. I suggest you hold onto your fond memories of the way it once was, but quit trying to draw parallels across the globe to why your home country got rolled over by violence.