Ah, I'm just trying to figure out where the line is for defending others. If Kyle was defending a grandparents house would it be ok? How about a great aunt/uncle? Is it the fact that he's 17 that's the problem? Would it be ok if he was say 21? 25? 30? I'm simply trying to understand your stance. If I was incapacitated and either my 16 year old daughter (who has had nearly 50 hours of firearm safety classes at a professional range) was staying the night at my mom's house where do you stand then? How about any of my four nephews (they range from 22-30 years old) staying with grandma?
@ Pretzelle - What should I do to not be a shitstain? Should I leave my wife and kids to live with my mom permanently? Should we leave our current home and buy one in my mom's neighborhood? My mom refuses to leave so that isn't an option. Throwing my hands up in the air and telling my mom "Sucks to be you" doesn't sit well with me. So please tell me how to go from being a shitstain to an upstanding citizen.
Edit to add: Just to muddy the waters. There use to be a mosque a little over an hour from where I live. It was torched a couple years ago. There was liability insurance but no full coverage. It was gutted; cheaper to tear it down and rebuild rather than repair. If somebody like Kyle was there before the arsonist started the fire would that change anybody's point of view? What if nobody was killed but temporarily disabled? permanently disabled? FYI, the mosque has been torn down and is a currently a parking lot. Story here:
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...llevue-mosque/