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Old 09-04-2020, 05:19 PM
Gwaihir Gwaihir is offline
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Originally Posted by zodium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
people always have been the foolish victims of deception and self-deception in politics, and they always will be until they have learnt to seek out the interests of some class or other behind all moral, religious, political and social phrases, declarations and promises.
There's always going to be some sort of power behind the curtain developing and maintaining a system of order and "morality" to govern the affairs of men. Idealizing a fantasy that removing the vase in which the water retains it's shape, or is somehow going to facilitate the water self-organizing to take on a more utopic shape is asinine.

"Whatsoever therefore is consequent to a time of Warre, where every man is Enemy to every man; the same is consequent to the time, wherein men live without other security, than what their own strength, and their own invention shall furnish them withall. In such condition, there is no place for Industry; because the fruit thereof is uncertain; and consequently no Culture of the Earth; no Navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by Sea; no commodious Building; no Instruments of moving, and removing such things as require much force; no Knowledge of the face of the Earth; no account of Time; no Arts; no Letters; no Society; and which is worst of all, continuall feare, and danger of violent death; And the life of man, solitary, poore, nasty, brutish, and short."
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