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Originally Posted by BlackBellamy
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Yes but there's no such thing as moral objectivity because morals are merely an enforcement mechanism against harmful group deviance and that changes over time. Incest was practiced widely because the number of offspring was more important than their long term health because no one lived long enough to matter and since people were less specialized they were more fungible. You can't be objective when you have a moving target like that especially since you have various groups still that exist on different points of the moral development timeline and their needs don't align with others for functional reasons.
You can say murder is objectively immoral but it's not under every condition so then what do you have, and that would be the strongest example I think.
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This is true. Reasoned “morality” delivers wildly different conclusions depending on one’s presuppositions. There is no objective morality because first principles can vary so broadly. We can very easily reason our way to right and wrong given a particular context, but if people cannot agree on fundamental truths, we cannot agree on the context or the conclusions by extension.