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Originally Posted by Castle2.0
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Orwell was largely right about his views in 1984 - so what if he was a "democratic socialist"? The irony is that one of socialism's many flaws is it leads to too much state power - the power needed to do the terrible things you read in 1984.
I'm not sure how he reconciled those views.
Also, it is possible to agree and disagree with the same person on different topics (without "cancelling" them [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]) He is right in 1984 about socialism, he is wrong about his version of socialism he supported.
"It's never been done right. If it were done my way, it would work."
Says every socialist simp and wanna-be / actual dictator, ha. |
When are you people going to learn that it's less about the form of government and more about culture and values. Capitalism, democratic socialism, fascism, or even communism could all be shitty or great forms of government depending on the people practicing them.
Socialism works quite well in Nordic countries where this a strong sense of civic duty, protestant work ethic, personal responsibility, it works less well in places with high levels of corruption or highly multicultural, fragmented societies (Venezuela, USSR, etc).
Likewise, capitalism is pretty great when it is underlied by a value system that negates some of its inhumane aspects. You see this in the difference between the American idyll of Jeffersonian Democracy vs. Chinese capitalism where they are dumping toxins in baby formula and cutting rice with plastic, although American capitalism has always been pretty shitty but is quickly descending to China levels compared to its apogee in the 1950's.
The ideal system is the one that maximizes prosperity and equity for a given culture, and for the United States it's really anyone's guess which one that is. But when people are talking about wanting things to be more "socialist" I think what they mean is they want a country that is more equitable in terms of equality of opportunity and the standard of living for wageslaves and you really have to be a high-grade piece of shit to be against that just because you are afraid of some Soviet strawman Fox News has shoved in your face.