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Old 05-23-2020, 09:37 PM
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Hide works about 50% of the time on woodies/halfers.

So half the time they wouldn't even need the ring.

Even if they fail hide, invis will only take 3 seconds to cast. The ticks are every 6 seconds, which means only a 50% chance the tick will overlap the invis casting.
My Druid is a Halfling and has Hide, but IMHO it's worthless for charm fighting, because it doesn't matter if half the time Hide lets you break when you need it to ... if the other half the time you get 0% XP because you broke too late. You can save a tiny bit of meaningless mana if you use it just before you manually cast invis ... but even doing that is sub-optimal, because you won't know whether the charm will break immediately, or in the casting time of one invis (or possibly more if you get a fizzle or move or something).

When you're charm fighting the entire idea is to get 100% of 2 mobs worth of XP, and that means engaging two mobs at once ... which is dangerous as a Druid (and not a tank). To survive and get all the XP you have to break charm when you need it broken. There is a very small window between breaking too early, and having two mobs beating on you, and breaking too late, after one mob dies (if it wasn't your pet you just lost 50% XP, and if it was your pet you lost 100% ... and now one mob is now beating on you).

Casting Invis lets you hit that window, but with less precision; the ring let's you do it exactly. Like I said before it's hard to convey that value "on paper": mobs don't usually go from 20% to 0% in 3 seconds, so it sounds like this shouldn't matter, but in the chaotic practice of reality it really is a big deal. I highly recommend people don't try to forum-craft it, and just try doing some animal charming with it on a Druid. You will see the difference.
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