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Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't wear dedicated +CHA gear all the time, you wear it to break camps or when otherwise casting a Lull where a crit fail will probably get you killed. Those are very limited scenarios in terms of overall playtime for most Clerics.

So you want to take off all your good wis/ac/hp/resist gear at the riskiest time possible. Sounds like a great idea.

Then we get into the fact that clerics main way to get around most area is going to be lulling stuff so they can pass without aggro, or the fact that you will invariably be doing CRs naked.

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And it's really not that easy to hit 200 WIS in Classic and Kunark gear (obviously with Velious raid gear it doesn't matter anymore). You're basically forced to prioritize +WIS in every slot to do it, so you miss out on a lot of good +Mana and +HP items to do so (i.e. you probably can't afford to use a Sarnak Battle Shield and HP jewelry, which boost your survivability substantially).

Nope. You just equip the best shit you can equip for whatever it is you are doing. You pretty much never need 200 wis anyway except for maybe a raid cleric.

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Very few groups have wiped in EQ because the Cleric's CHA was too low. On the other hand, it's the most common thing in the world for a group or raid to wipe because Clerics ran out of mana, or because the Cleric pulled agro and died.

The actual raid mana of clerics will hardly differ regardless of starting stats. They all hit 200 wisdom, and +mana items usually aren't nearly as effective as pure wisdom items prior to the cap. At most, you end up with something like 100 more mana to play with versus same race cleric.

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Prioritizing CHA over WIS on a Cleric is not wrong for everyone. But it is wrong for the vast majority of players. It's literally the exact same as people who say you should prioritize STA over INT on INT casters. It's technically correct in the very long run perspective, but really only pays dividends once you obtain extremely high-end gear. You'll be gimped 1-60 and until late Velious. This applies doubly on Green where gearing will be much more competitive.

i already addressed this. if you want to be a pure raid bot, that's fine. Realistically, no raid guild gives a flying fuck what you put your starting points in as long as you will raid with your cleric. But you might give a fuck when your charisma is shit and it reduces your effectiveness at doing an non raid content<-- and this will be the case for most players, even players who are in raiding guilds.