[Dolalin]

I think these were working, then were broken for awhile, then patched to be working again.

(Edit: and then broken again, lol)

Here are some messages showing it maybe did work for awhile:

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Message ID: 11463
Date: Tue Dec 7 23:12:48 GMT 1999
Author: Talies the Wanderer
Subject: Songs and resists


Okay - I've been digging deep, and this is what I've dredged up:

Crission's Pixie Strike:
A lot of you have noticed that you get resist after resist with Pixie
Strike, until it "takes" - then it suddenly works over and over (ditto with
Charm?) Weeeeeelll - apparently, an "undocumented feature" of those two
songs is a slight magic resistance debuff.

Guardian Rhythms only purpose is in twisting multiple songs in the Rhythms
lines, and ONLY if you are already twisting the other two. It gives the
same AC and MR bonus as Purifying and Elemental, but without anything else.

Psalm of Vitality appears to have a slight disease-removal effect. Purity
seems to remove poison, and

Fufil's Curtailing Chant only does 1/4th the damage of the Discord, but it
DOES have a better MR Debuff.

Psalm of Warmth gives Infravision, Cooling gives Ultravision.

Denon's Dissension is a mana-debuff, but since NPC's don't USE mana, it's
utterly useless.

Tuyen's Chant of Flame/Frost supplements it's weak damage by adding a
Fire/Cold resistance debuff (So theoretically, they'll take more damage if
they resist less? Stick with Denon's.)

Syvelian's is exactly the same as Alenia's as far as the data file is
concerned (except for the material component in Alenia's)

Mystic Shielding seems to have an unknown effect, as well as a DoT
effect. How strange.

Niv's, from the looks of the effects will add a rune-like coat of
protection, as well as healing, AND giving you an HP buff AND a decent STR
buff. Wow!! Nice song (if it works...)

Chord's of Cessation adds a damage effect to it's slow-down, however, it's
slow-down is no more powerful than the Chains. If anything, it's worse
than chains, because while they both slow down attacks, only chains slows
movement.

And man - I can't wait for Verses of Victory (level 50) That is one SWEET
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All information comes from the spdat.eff and/or spells.eff files,
reliability subject to Verant's programming abilities.

Talies the Researcher

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/db...tml/11463.html

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Message ID: 14826
Date: Fri Feb 11 15:22:16 GMT 2000
Author: Benjamin Jerrad Segal
Subject: 50 songs (was: RE: Area Songs in Lguk [WAS[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]oes CHR affect Largos?)


On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Ryan Honeyman wrote:

> Speaking from the L50 perspective, you will be playing Victory
> and Clarit and most likely nothing else.

Add to that resistances. I've kept psalm of vitality mem'd in hate
because so many mobs disease (I felt bad having to ask for a cure after
nearly every fight). This for single mob pulls, and when I start getting
attention I stop attacking for a few rounds. If more than one comes in,
songs go by the wayside.

My biggest peeve with the 50 song is that the message is exactly the same
as Chant of Battle. I usually pick what to weave next from the last
message I see, and this makes it rather difficult.

Athren

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Message ID: 14828
Date: Fri Feb 11 15:56:47 GMT 2000
Author: Ryan Honeyman
Subject: Re: 50 songs


> Add to that resistances. I've kept psalm of vitality mem'd in hate
> because so many mobs disease (I felt bad having to ask for a cure after
> nearly every fight). This for single mob pulls, and when I start getting
> attention I stop attacking for a few rounds. If more than one comes in,
> songs go by the wayside.

That's true, I will put in a little +dis or +pois, however I find
resist line spells work well enough. I wish those Psalms had
a dmg shield and a different color tint. For curing in Hate it's
useful, I agree. But I'm not usually hanging out in hate these
days.

> My biggest peeve with the 50 song is that the message is exactly the same
> as Chant of Battle. I usually pick what to weave next from the last
> message I see, and this makes it rather difficult.

Yep, tough see when to twist chant in, so I just rarely do it.
Maybe we suggest that the message changes, even something generic
like 'You feel victorious.'

Harmonic.

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Then by March it seems to have stopped working:

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Message ID: 16306
Date: Fri Mar 17 16:15:26 GMT 2000
Author: Ryan Honeyman
Subject: Re: [eqbards] The only good dragon...


> got fear bugged with 90% mana along with 3 or 4 others and a few went LD.
> We had 3 functioning healers that entire battle. Well, we still got Lady
> Vox down to a sliver before our damage output dropped to nothing.

And sure enough, (I have the eqlog.txt to prove it) I had 230 CR,
my all time record high but still got waxxed. It's _very_ hard to
beat 230 cold. In fact it's near impossible to go above 250.

2390 hp.

Vox breath attack one: 0.5 bubbles.
Vox breath attack two: 1.5 bubbles.
Vox breath attack three: 0.25 bubbles.
Vox breath attack four: 1.5 bubbles.
Vox breath attack five: dead. (thats right: 2+ bubbles)

I'll post my eqlog.txt when I get home.... it clearly shows this:

You feel an aura of elemental protection.
Your aura fades.
You are blasted by freezing winds.

wtf? There is a bug with Bard Song Shields and I now have the log
to prove it. And you all dismissed it as lunacy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]


> A little CR, pause for a snack.

We terrorized gfay in the downtime. We had punching duels. (I lost
mine, don't ever duel a ranger in a punching contest even with their
low H2H skill, he was double/dualing 5-9 dmg consistant enough that
my weak dual couldn't keep up. Plus he kicked me a lot, damn cheater.
heh. That's ok, I was playing VoV ;-) Got him to a sliver and died)

There were trolls molesting ogres who in turn were molesting wood elves.
It was actually some of the best times I've had after dying in a while.

> Harmonic came along as a guest this trip, so he got to see both
> the guild at its worst and best [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

Had more fun than I have had in a long time. Losing was fun, and
so was winning. I have screenshots, but I didn't know whether you
all wanted them posted or not, so I just put them in my eq resume
folder ;-)

Killed Maestro the other night too, finally got my evensong after
the first one was ninja looted from me months ago. He was dual
wielding, 24 people killed him with 3-4 deaths. Learned a lot
about how to fight him after the first attempt with 32 people
failed miserably. 32 people with his AE lifetap actually made
his hp go up, not down in battle. Scary. Cleared 5-6 static
houses (20-30 mobs) and one thing dropped, EM gloves. That is
another great example of Verant under-rewarding players who've
invested time into _their_ world.

Psalm of Vitality does not cure disease. If anyone wants my eqlog
of that I pulsed it for 1 hour, and Strong Disease was still up
when I returned to the computer. This applies to Psalm of Purity
as well. It does not cure poison (although poison is much shorter
duration).

I tested a few other things as well, but I failed to test charm
again. It could have been a fluke in permafrost, but I could
not clear the dmg list of any of the 3 goblins I tried it on.
I'll try it again this weekend, on the mobs I use to powerlevel
people (centaurs).

But there is absolutely something wrong with our magical song shields,
and I encourage others to test this against NPC spell casters. If
I can later today at work during lunch, I'll log something to post
this bug.

Harm.

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Then later on in June there is a patch where it works again (fix was not in patch notes, that's why all the confusion). Bonus quote from Abashi in the body of the message::

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Message ID: 19490
Date: Wed Jun 7 15:48:37 BST 2000
Author: Reeves, Patrick W
Subject: A recap of the 6/6 patch.


Lots of Bard news from yesterday's patch. Of course as usual none of the
changes were listed in the patch message (Gordon if you read this put a big
yellow post-it note on your computer monitor that reads: 'ANY BARD CHANGES?'
*grin*). Anyway here is the good, bad, and the ugly:

The Good
-Piercing weapon skill cap has been raised to be in-line with our other
weapon skills.
-Psalm of Purity & Psalm of Vitality now cure poison and disease. The
drawback is on a cure pulse you lose the resist bonus. Seems a fair trade
off.

The Bad
-Selo's Consonant Chain was stealth nerfed hard last night. In an effort to
balance Selo's Assonait Strane VI put a hard limit on movement speed debuffs
server side. Unfortunately the hard limit was based of the spell line with
the worst movement speed debuff, the necromancer Darkness line. This nerf
not only affected our three movement debuffs (Chains, Strane, & Largo's
Absonant Binding) it also hit the druid/ranger Snare line. It testing last
night Chains did not stop feared or fleeing (non-feared) mobs till about 25%
health at 52nd level, it used to stop them cold at 50%.

The Ugly
-Gordon posted the following to the Bard Issues thread on the Sony Gameplay
forum, my notes are proceeded by *:
Abashi
Station Member posted 06-06-2000 06:11 PM
This thread will need to
be closed due to its size soon. When someone reposts the issue, I'd prefer
it if you could remove the items that we've commented on, or at least
indicate its status.I've gotten word on many of the issues from various
members of the team:
Purity and Vitality are fixed in code. It should be live now. If it isn't,
it is on test and will be live at the next client patch.
*This is live, yeah!

Kellin's has been referred to our testing department.
*About time, lets hope they fix lullaby this time.

Lyssa's Concord is confirmed and agreed as bug. The client programmer has it
now.
*This should also fix the problem with Psalm of Warmth & Cooling as well.

Selo's Constant Chain is in testing.
*Grrrrr, lets hope they fix the movement debuff on this fast the testing
referred to is about early breaks.

Angstlich's Appauling Screech: Fear spells do not cause NPCs to stop
casting. Works as intended.

Solidarity of Vision: Works as intended.

Johthan's Provocation: We've reduced the fizzle rate and added the message.
Remainder works as intended. Changes are live.
*These changes did not go live. It still fizzle way too much and has no
added message.

Niv's: Works as intended.

Song of Travel: Opinions requested and placed on the board. I believe the
consensus was to remove the invis component, yes?
*To quote Gordon 'Ack!', a thread has already started to keep Song of Travel
as is.

Largo's: Range has been increased. Changes are live. Still looking into PvP
behavior.
*No feedback or testing on this yet.

Nillipus': Works as intended currently. We're open to removing the damage
shield component if you wish. Thoughts?
*To quote Gordon again, 'Ack!' This is a specialized song that has some
great uses. I personally hope they leave it alone.

Song of Twilight: Works as intended.

Assonant Strain: fixed as requested.
*Fixed and nerfed

Bombastic Bellow: Fixed and live.

The "Broken Quest Issues" are not broken quests. They are preexisting
stories for future expansion.
*Not sure if this applies to Fabian or not.

"Kunark Armor": Well my list says "fixed" but I don't have what they ment by
that. If any changes have been made they would be live.

That's it for this installment
-Gordon

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Ro-kenn Swiftsong - Karana server
52nd lvl Wood Elf Minstrel

EQ Bard Song Analysis
http://rgonzalez.net/EQSongs/

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A few more messages that mention curing disease/poison with these songs after this June 2000 patch that I don't feel like quoting:

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Edit: Then by June 2001 it was broken again, lol? Verant you morons.

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Message ID: 25022
Date: Wed Jun 13 07:07:03 BST 2001
Author: Kenneth E. Bachman
Subject: Re: [eqbards] Asking for some "quirk" support


Psalm of Vitality, Psalm of Purity. Are they supposed to cure Disease/Poison? And if so, why don't
they? And if they do, why don't they do it better (e.g., why can't I cure Rabies after 30 minutes of
constant play)? And why don't they scale up with level?

Kenross Cantoforjado, 58 songs, Innoruuk


Stephen McCloskey wrote:

> There are still a few "quirks" (note: not necessarily bugs) that could be
> getting worked out of the bards. I am not talking class balance issues
> here. If you can think of any quirks, annoying or otherwise, add them in
> to the list. Then head to the quality assurance message board (
> http://boards.station.sony.com/cgi-b...i?action=intro ) and let
> Ester know. If enough people post to her, she may make a statement about
> it and hopefully fix it.
>
> 1) Many months ago Ester told us that the caster animation that bards make
> when using the chants would be fixed. Nothing has been done.
> 2) The sound effects on Shield of song is annoying to most people. Can't
> we get rid of this?
> 3) There is no text message for Shield of Song.
> 4) Though not directly bard related it is a bit. Around the time of the
> DX7 patch the off/low/med/high particle effect settings became broken. Off
> now displays what low used to be. The "new" low is no different from
> medium and high. I bumped a post about this nearly six months ago. Ester
> said they would look in to it. Nothing has been done.

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So basically these songs seem to have been working/broken/working/broken again, all in era.