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Old 04-07-2020, 03:50 PM
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It's a lotto either way, and ultimately it has to be. There's no other way to fairly distribute one mastone among 100 people that want it.
Two logical fallacies here: (1) False equivocation and (2) begging the question.

(1) See poker vs lottery example. Some RNG does not equal pure RNG. Poker does not equal lottery.
(2) You assume pure RNG is the only way to 'fairly distribute' the manastone and thus your pure RNG must be correct.

Effectively, you're saying:
"Your idea is based on the same premise as mine. And since my standard of fairness is the right one, my idea must be correct."

Wrong.

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The question is, do we only let the most insane players, who are willing to do (extreme) non-EverQuest things (like not sleep for a week), participate in that lottery, or do we open it up to everyone who wants to play the game?
Another logical fallacy: False dichotomy - I got a Manastone in 18 hours once. Anyone who really wants it, can stay up 18 hours once and be totally healthy and sane.

To those who go long....no one is staying up for a week. People are banding together with friends to camp an item, and taking turns camping it. Sounds pretty EQ to me. Kind of like getting your epic. I'd even call it an "asynchronous epic camp" since it's friends camping the item in succession.

Your argument is pretty flaccid: " Fellas.... it's INSANITY or my way (whcih BTW I am going to tell you, is just so very reasonable, so good, I'm just going to describe it as "open it up to everyone who wants to play the game").

Lastly, your Bernie Bro socialist approach is one of the worst ideas to 'fix' list. I'm not going to ping pong the idea back and forth with you on this. It will never happen because it is so antithetical to the spirit of EQ. It cheapens the goal (manastone) by requiring nothing more than dumb luck. No feeling of ownership, no feeling of accomplishment -- it's socialism.

I'll let you argue it out with others. I've made my points -- they can stand on their own merits, and I'll bet 50K, your approach is never implemented for Manastone on Green.
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