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Originally Posted by magnetaress
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I hope teams is better. I believe people who will do it care, have been involved in red, and will have learned from the last few years.
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I dont. What the devs need here, for years, is brutally honest, uninvested feedback. What they were getting from those Nihilum poopsockers for example, was tainted feedback. They knew xp loss made it so that no one could challenge them in raid zones strictly because of their numbers which meant they won without even having to fight for it 95% of the times. So they told the staff everything was fine, although it was bad for the server. Same story with the griefers, they had fun making people quit, so they also told staff everything was fine. It was not hard to figure out what was going on though, if the devs mod had time / cared about it, minimally.
Heres some more out of touch snippets:
"Hence why we're not going to just wipe the red server.. we've gone on record that unless it's declared ahead of time before the server opens, you'll never lose your chars"
Again more proof Rogean just doesnt get pvpers. When he moves my 60 shaman on blue (if i still played) thats the end of my character. I played pvp classic, i played pvp emus, i play pvp. Pretty sure thats the story of most people who roll on red. Thats just like deleting the characters. Not that i am against it, but it is what it is.
"needs to be teams.. it's the only way to protect the newer / isolated players
otherwise you get one guild strong arming everyone"
Nothing will stop a bored lone griefer druid to port in and out of newb zones to grief them. It will be easier than ever to grief newer/isolated players when you can literally one shot them before they know what happened. These are the players without a solid guild starting out, lagging behind in levels, just feeling their way around who will get shit on 24/7 by Cast-type players. Its just a repeat of red's launch, like i said, its just comical to read some of that chat.
He has some interesting ideas (like how seasonal servers could be fun to try different rulesets) but i think its time for Rogean to have a bit of humility and just accept hes just not good at getting a hang of what works in pvp. Listen to people like Angwe (forgot his dev name here), have some serious post where people pick apart the potential flaws for different server setups and actually read and think about them.
To be clear im not against a teams server, but these issues have to be addressed before the server is launched, with solutions thought through or it will just be a tragi-comedy thing all over again.