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Originally Posted by -TK-
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This.
Honestly, Tilien, you're coming across as someone that refuses to really look at the situation you're dealing with. Look at the context of the situation. We're here talking about a PVP game server. I mean, I wasn't in the guild, but when I saw the name, I immediately thought, okay, troll guild, but when I thought about what the word literally meant I thought, damn, what good name for a PVP guild and moved on with life. Then, add to that the fact that there was multiple recorded instances of people being disciplined/removed for making references to The Holocaust, and what more is there to argue about? Being able to process that knee-jerk reaction, and reason it out afterward is part of being an adult that unfortunately not enough people choose to embrace. This then leads to a conversation about feelings, which can almost never be won by either side.
On the flip side of the argument, I think that by naming the guild Holocaust and sparking these conversations, those fine men and women on Red weren't being edgy or insensitive. In fact, I think they provided a great service to history and the preservation of the memory of those terrible events. According to WaPo (yeah, I can Google, too), 2/3 of Millennials don't know what Auschwitz is and 22% have never heard of The Holocaust. There's people reading these threads that have thus Googled and learned more about it than they otherwise would know. For that I say, kudos, and carry on.
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I even said in my last post that if I was there and seen them remove people for making jokes I'd be more inclined to believe their explanation and let it go.
That being said there seems to be some overlap DMO which has made a few trolls based around race and naming... like Nigron making the claim that "Modo" is an Egyptian name/word that means "the way" (It's not, and based on the definition he uses he's using a Latin-derived meaning for the word) and makes me more inclined to believe they were trolling back then. If there are recorded instances rather than one group of people saying "they made jokes" and the other saying "those people were removed" and someone pointed to some evidence one way or the other that would probably change my mind. But you know... trolls now were probably trolls then. I'm not saying they're genocidal just... wanna be edge-lords?
I guess that's the context thing.