In a recent group I was just reminded of some obvious and valuable lessons that are easy to overlook. And its that you can't convince morons; even worse when there's more than one who agree with each other.
So if you join a group and they're adamant about the backwards NBG then you're forced to choose between losing items or plat that you deserve (unless stuff for your class drops), or losing exp by not grouping with them, even if you try to establish it from the beginning. If they're already stuck on bad loot rules then those are your only two options. And arguing about it will always backfire.
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