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Originally Posted by vossiewulf
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No Hazek, we follow your logic, we just don't agree that it's correct. The reason being that it treats all these objects as gray boxes with no particular association to any class. If that were true, then your logic would actually work. But it is not true.
What is true is the objects have class associations so if you win the roll on the 500pp words with a mage there, that person will have seen something that they very much need right there and now it's gone. And it may be another 20 hours of camping before one shows up again.
That person will feel from pretty bummed out to like shit. Many would call it a night because this sucks. People who actually feel empathy for others would never consider doing that to someone else. It's not called the Golden Rule without reason.
What I see is people who feel no empathy for others, specifically you and a couple others, and I think that because your logic regularly requires that to be true to work. And the fact that you don't even notice that is also telling.
But at the same time, not everyone who's fine with rolling for everything is ok with it for the same reasons Hazek/Nordok wants it to be the default. Not talking about those people here.
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The golden rule works both ways. If you invoke it in the "the warrior NEEDS the fbss because it makes his character better but the magician is just greedy and wants to sell it" way but not also in the "the magician can buy all kinds of things he NEEDS with the plat from selling the fbss" way... you're not being logically consistent. At that point you're just using the rule when it brings about the result you want, not because you actually understand or believe in the rule.