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Originally Posted by vossiewulf
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No Hazek, we follow your logic, we just don't agree that it's correct. The reason being that it treats all these objects as gray boxes with no particular association to any class. If that were true, then your logic would actually work. But it is not true.
What is true is the objects have class associations so if you win the roll on the 500pp words with a mage there, that person will have seen something that they very much need right there and now it's gone. And it may be another 20 hours of camping before one shows up again.
That person will feel from pretty bummed out to like shit. Many would call it a night because this sucks. People who actually feel empathy for others would never consider doing that to someone else. It's not called the Golden Rule without reason.
What I see is people who feel no empathy for others, specifically you and a couple others, and I think that because your logic regularly requires that to be true to work. And the fact that you don't even notice that is also telling.
But at the same time, not everyone who's fine with rolling for everything is ok with it for the same reasons Hazek/Nordok wants it to be the default. Not talking about those people here.
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Wanting a fair role on items has nothing to with empathy. And if they were "empathetic" then they would allow other people to roll on it.
I do treat people how I want to be treated, and how they treat me. Because if I were the mage then I would let people roll on it like I already said. Or I would just offer to buy it from them or someone else.
Furthermore, a greedy mage is denying the other people from getting an item they deserve. It makes no difference if they don't get it immediately.
And if they throw a hissy fit cause they didn't win the roll then they're childish and I wouldn't group them after that anyway.
I'm all about being fair and just not catering to people who cry about it or don't understand. Although unfortunately they still exist so i'm forced to deal with them.