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Old 11-25-2019, 05:31 PM
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Dol, also have an additional question for you on this. How do we square this with the statement from Brad McQuaid on the Wiki about Charisma (copied below for reference)?

"CHA: affects amount you will be paid for goods by NPC merchants, and how much they will pay you; affects the saving throw on certain bard and enchanter spells (charms in particular)"
I've been mulling this over and I think Torven's interpretation, namely that the CHA save on charm breaks existed but was only significant against e.g. even cons where you weren't already at the MR resist floor, does fit the data. We wouldn't have expected to see any CHA bonus for green and blue con charm break tests, but that's what everyone seems to have been testing against because let's face it, it was safer.

The problem really is that there's so little data on even con+ charms and we're never going to get any more.

Maybe Haynar has already coded up something resembling TAKP's charm logic anyways on P99 and this thread has nothing new to offer. Always good to discuss though.
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