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Originally Posted by Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
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This whole "comrade corbyn" thing is weird. Wanting to nationalize things isn't communist. It's normal to nationalize services, tons of countries worldwide have nationalized power, rail, communications etc.
WE are the odd ones out. People parrot on about TAKING BACK CONTROL. Fine go on about immigration all you want, but we wont have real control back till we control the things which keep us alive.
Currently out grid part owned by UK and otherwise between canadian, chinese, german and middle eastern companies among others.
A fair portion of our rail network is french, german and dutch owned.
Our post is at least 21% owned by a german consortium.
Nationalization will hurt to begin with and will have issues. No doubt. But dont blame those who seek to nationaize it. Blame those who privatized in the past.
Selling things off is easy and gets a quick buck. Keeping things in our control may be tougher in the long run but is better for our country.
I can't think of a single reason anyone who is parroting this "taking back control" stuff could have to OPPOSE renationalization of utilities and services.
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You realise the socialist wing of the Labour Party revel in referring to themselves as "comrade" - it's literally how the Labour Party Conference is addressed.
I'm not old enough to remember when the cold winds of socialism last blew through my country, but I am old enough to remember Mrs Thatcher's market reforms that brought about many improvements e.g. it was common for it to take months for a BT technician to connect your home to a phone line (unless you knew a corrupt one, of which there were many), and you had to buy your phone from BT. Now it takes days, and you can buy any phone you want from anywhere.
I personally don't really care whether a service provider is state-owned or privately owned, what I do care about is that there is competition in the market so I can chose who I buy from. Of course, some things are natural monopolies such as Royal Mail, which I agree should never have been privatised - interestingly it was both Labour (under Blair) and the Conservatives who pushed that through to implement EU competition law. The rail network also was a disaster when it was privatised, so is rightly back in national hands, I'm not decided about the train-operating companies - I'm fortunate to live in the South-East and I can see that they've invested in new trains which are much better than the ancient slam-door trains that were used after British Rail was privatised. I know that's not the case everywhere and Northern Rail is a disgrace (they got our second-hand trains).
Ultimately I fear you will have less control than you think over a nationalised service provider, the only control we as individuals have is to take our business elsewhere, sometimes that's not possible, but where it is there should be consumer choice.