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Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception
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Like I said Lor. I'd love to see someone take the widely-disseminated guides and general "it is known, khaleesi" type of knowledge you can find scattered around casters realm and zam forums and stuff, and play a chanter on p99 like that while also trying to maintain a charm.
If they can do that and show me the video of them playing like a classic chanter was told to by everything they could find anywhere while still ripping shit up with a monster charmed pet, I'll walk back all my defense of charm being similar here to on live.
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So let's try taking Enchanters out of the picture, for a moment, and let's talk about ... Druid charming!
I charmed on my Druid here, just about exclusively until 45. I
did twink him out with a Goblin ring at some point, but I also charmed for a level or two without it first. I never used -MR gear or a GCD clickie (well, I got when he was 60 but that's irrelevant).
I
absolutely understand what a
huge difference that ring makes. But even so, without it, and without -MR gear or an insta-click item, I got a level or two, and it was still significantly faster than root/rotting.
Now look, I get that message boards were a double-edged sword: they shared info, but they also encouraged a certain "herd mentality". This lead to "wisdom" being passed on to newer players, and some very small percentage of the time that "wisdom" may have missed a relevant detail and been wrong.
Case in point: every Shaman (on the forums) knew to Cann-dance. But none knew to use a Shrunken Goblin Ring to spam click Cann once you got Torpor. Relatively few shaman even got to 60 (in classic), only a few of them had Torpor, and relatively few players overall even understood global cooldown resets.
-MR gear, goblin ring, GCD resets ... all of that is equivalent (in the GCD case, directly) to Shaman Cann-dancing when they should have been GCD reset-ing.
But charming a mob, having it fight another mob, and then casting invis on yourself to break it? Without any other item or mechanic, that's a valuable strategy (again, faster than root/rotting, the established approach for Druids). It's widely practiced here, but it wasn't on live.
I
can't prove with evidence that it's absolutely, certainly, a sign of a missing mechanic here. And I couldn't have proven it with Bards AoEing in OT: I'm no AoE expert, and every Bard defender said "it's a classic mechanic, people just didn't realize they couldn't do it on live, we're smarter here".
But does the incredibly different amount of even
base-level, no tricks charm fighting here vs. live ... does it truly "smell" like
just ignorance, and not a sign of any other hard-to-pin-down mechanic being off, which makes the technique more effective here than it was on live?