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Originally Posted by Rooj
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But that's just it, lol.
No one here seems to remember Enchanter armies taking literal control of the world because it didn't happen. Therefore it is not a classic experience. All of these excuses like "people didn't know better" are horse shit. If anyone can confirm this is the actual original manual (it looks familiar, but surprised to see Iksar/Cabilis/Thurgadin stuff in there I guess), it states in the ORIGINAL GAME MANUAL that Enchanters use Charisma ( https://naroggsplace.files.wordpress.../eq_manual.pdf). Then in November of 1999 there was an Enchanter guide on Castersrealm that talked about putting all of your points into Charisma at character creation, and that's just the earliest reference I found while BARELY looking - doesn't mean there weren't others even earlier. So it was known on DAY ONE that CHA affected Enchanter. I'm sure it didn't take players long to start thinking hey, these lines of spells that reduce magic resistance might help with charm too! Having someone Snare a mob when charm breaks isn't a new concept either. Combining all of this with the fact that CHA is one of the easiest and cheapest stats to raise, along with ENC's having their own CHA buff line, I really don't see how people can continue to make up excuses and not see that SOMETHING, SOMEWHERE, needs an edit.
And it's not "simple." Again, people need to see the parses. The amount of damage a charmed pet does is not simple. |
Erm I think you missed my point. I never said people didn’t know charisma was important for an enchanter. I said people hadn’t perfected the absolute min/max strategy for how to charm the best. They just didn’t have the whole step by step charm strategy perfected in the way we do today, thereby making charm much more dangerous. You would think they would, but it simply wasn’t common knowledge back in the day. By Kunark I remember people had really figured out some solid strategies, but it took a couple months at least.
As for your other comment, there are old guides that say to use the lowest level charm available. So with respect to charm it seems that it didn’t operate in the same way in terms of chance of effectiveness as say a Fear spell did based on spell level.