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					Originally Posted by  Videri
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				I would love to experience this kind of thing. It sounds like the stories from Rallos Zek. 
 
But Red wasn't like this...at least not when I was there in I think 2015-2016. About half the players were innocent naked noobs and the other half were on their WORST behavior at all times. 
 
One time, a bunch of players calling themselves <Pandemonium> rolled on Red. The entire rest of the server shit on them until they left. 
 
After that (or was it before?) a bunch of players calling themselves <TMO> rolled on Red. The entire rest of the server shit on them until they left. (sorry guys btw) 
 
So, Red is not the same. I wonder what the difference was. The fact that the population of Red was minuscule compared to RZ/TZ/VZ/SZ? The fact that most people on classic-to-Velious-era live pvp servers knew nothing about pvp, whereas half of everyone here on Red was a seasoned pro? Anyway. Let me not derail this thread. 
			
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 Right, that's why I suggested only flagging the raid zones for PVP (not newbie zones), as a tool for the players to settle their own disputes. So even though much of what you said is true regarding red server, it wouldn't apply here.