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Old 11-01-2019, 06:35 AM
Dolalin Dolalin is offline
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The idea that pets would steal xp if they got the kill shot was a common myth from beta days. I see it all over the newsgroups.

Searching some more this morning I found this post from April 2000:

Quote:
4/3/00

> A while ago Gordo posted some notes stating that in a group a pet took an
> insignificant amount of exp. Now I'm hearing rumours that ShowEQ contradicts
> this. Does anyone have any more info on this?
C&P from Lum the Mad's

***Quote
3. Pets do not take a fixed amount of exp when solo.

Surprise, surprise! Pet exp penalties do not work *at all* like Verant claims. If a
pet class, for example a mage,
is fighting blue mobs with a pet and the pet does less than 50% of the combined
damage done between the
mage and pet, the mage gets 100% of the exp. If the pet outdamages the mage and the
mage gets credit for
the kill, the mage gets 50% of the exp.

This works for blue through red mobs, but when dealing with green mobs of any kind,
if the pet outdamages the
mage, the mage gets no exp. If the mage outdamages the pet, though, he gets the
normal green exp, be it 50%
or 25%.
***end quote


This is a small bit of a larger article about exp. in general.

http://lum.xrgaming.net/eqexp.html

Also an interesting bit about those race/class combos which are supposed to slow
down group members (e.g. Troll SK) which claims that the hybrid just levels slower
(therefore no penalty in grouping with them)

--
Simond AKA
Morrighan. Barbarian Shaman, Vallon Zek
Cealena, Human Necromancer, Vallon Zek
Dea Crystalmist, Freelance Ranger, Europa
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....0/Sjmq0Zfwb4IJ

The web archive link to that Lum the Mad address is here:

http://web.archive.org/web/200007091...net/eqexp.html

Quote:

3. Pets do not take a fixed amount of exp when solo.

Surprise, surprise! Pet exp penalties do not work *at all* like Verant claims. If a pet class, for example a mage, is fighting blue mobs with a pet and the pet does less than 50% of the combined damage done between the mage and pet, the mage gets 100% of the exp. If the pet outdamages the mage and the mage gets credit for the kill, the mage gets 50% of the exp.

This works for blue through red mobs, but when dealing with green mobs of any kind, if the pet outdamages the mage, the mage gets no exp. If the mage outdamages the pet, though, he gets the normal green exp, be it 50% or 25%.
Interesting to note here that this is something the ShowEQ and Hackerquest guys discovered on their own. This wasn't a change Verant put in, it was them discovering how things worked for the first time. There's no indication that I can see that this had been touched or changed since launch. Happy to be corrected if someone knows more.

Oh and one last tidbit which is damaging to my hypothesis that pets might take 50% of xp in groups if they did most of the damage:

Quote:
6. Pets take no exp in groups.

No matter what they do, how many there are, and how much damage they put out, we can not find any cases where pets take *any* exp away from a group. It's possible that there is some way for pets to take exp from groups, but in every sort of normal fighting in Everquest, it simply does not occur.
Last edited by Dolalin; 11-01-2019 at 06:41 AM..