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There's a difference between griefers and then macequesters. When I first rolled here on launch, I had never played any meaningful EQ PvP other than the discord server, and got my ass handed to me repeatedly by Smedy in Unrest. He was still a cool dude about it tho with playful ribbing and it made the game fun and made me enjoy PvP and want to get better to get "revenge". I had many interactions like this early on with people, fighting for caiman's in Oasis, dervs in SRO, etc., where some fun PvP was had, some light trash talking exchanged, and people moved on.

Then came the legit MaceQuesting weirdos who stalk you IRL, write down every interaction ever, screenshot 100000x, spam you in tells / ooc etc., and make the game unenjoyable to play for most normal human beings. These are the people that ruin the game for most non crazies. This thread where insults and discussion of PvP events from before Rallos Zek was created by The Nameless are a good example of these individuals in action.

That's my 2 cents at least.