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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What happened to "I'm making it classic damn it and I don't care if no one plays here as a result?" We want that Nilbog back [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I get both Paineel and Infected Paw, as they would require tons of work, but Charm is (basically) just flipping a switch.

And for what it's worth I'm not even planning to play a Shaman or Necromancer (although my plans do keep changing ...)

I just want to see this because, classic!

EDIT

I do always try to remember that devs have to consider lots of stuff we don't. So while I 100% think that Charm should already be repercussion-less (ie. at least in classic terms, which is all anyone should care about), especially when Enchanters have been testing it on Blue for a decade ... when I say that I'm thinking about PCs.

However, I realize the NPCs are probably the problem. We already have unclassic NPC spells here (which I mentioned in the mega thread and was basically told "we don't have the evidence to fix this"), and if we can't fix that in time for Green, throwing (potentially two levels higher than they're supposed to be) Charm spells on Shaman/Necro NPCs, when those NPCs have never been tested with them on any server, really could have some serious bad effects.

If it truly isn't possible to make this classic, all I can say is that this (and hopefully a general NPC spell fix) belongs at the very least on Green 2.0. It really won't be classic EverQuest until NPC casters are casting what they cast in '99.

This is not a reason to justify Nilbog's decision but honestly back in 1999, for real for real, no necro or shaman used charm spell. In a way this decision makes the server more classic feeling. It's the same concept as knowing manastones will be removed. In real classic nobody knew they were going to be removed so the camp was always open. That would be impossible to recreate. But something like this is doable by simply not allowing it, lol.

If we had charm at launch imagine all the neckbeards taking advantage of it just because they know about it now...would be a way different launch than real '99.

I'm not trying to justify it or anything but at the same time this decision does not bother me. I just hope they don't start pets out like they are today like they did on Blue/Red launch.