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Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone who's never found that spell useful hasn't achieved mastery of the class. It's possible to play a Shadow Knight at a mediocre level as a "one button wonder" but achieving expert or mastery levels of experience requires more effort.

I am saying it isn't necessary and it isn't. Anyone can click Clinging Darkness over and over to achieve the same result. I guess if you are battling another SK then you might need a strategy, but is that really going to happen leveling?

Pretty much everyone who wants plate armor on a fresh server will be able to get bronze by the mid 20's if they want it. Rangers have to wait another ten levels or so for Rubicite. Rangers can wear shields while acting as tanks but seldom do so. The tank role kind of plays against the class's other strengths.

110 AC on Bronze Vs. 91 on banded, assuming you actually collect all the pieces your size. For leveling purposes, this is a nominal difference. That is also assuming people know where to go for their sizes. Large bronze is the most rare. Ogre's and trolls aren't going to have fun trying to get around in Nanjena and I assure you the camp in WK will be perma-camped.

Paladins are the most defensive-minded of the tank types, and tend to get better as the rest of the group gets weaker. In particular they shine in groups
which don't have a Cleric healing.

As a Paladin myself, I agree they shine. I don't agree that having a different type of healer is the reason. Pre-Planar the type of healer is almost inconsequential IMO. Paladin's also have the advantage of being able to actually get their bronze armor drops.

Warriors' aggro generation problems are typically solved either with click items (raids) or with liberal use of root (groups). They have the highest innate health and damage reduction of any class and deal good damage on par with (superior to, if berserk) a Ranger.

Like I posted, you will have Naggy and Vox. Perhaps you can clarify what clicky items you are referring to. After 3 months you get Fear and after 6 months you get Hate. I can't think of a thing that would make them viable, but again this is a leveling post. Also, Warrior's aren't getting block so the DR you speak of is also negligible. I stand with my statement that Warrior's are completely inept while leveling and average, at best 3rd place, for the first 6 month of raids as well.

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In addition to the above comments, practical reality must warrant consideration as well: Regardless of how effectively Rangers can tank, few pick-up groups will invite them for that purpose ahead of any of the other tank types. As with so many things in life, public perception often affects outcomes more than the actual reality of something does.

I agree that it will be difficult due to mindsets. What I am trying to get across with this post is the reality not the perception.

Danth