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Originally Posted by Thrombosis
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Fair enough, and I apologise if my tone was unduly harsh - my passions are running high atm.
FWIW I also don't understand the ins and outs of the EU either, but I saw that as a good reason for Leaving though, as I like my government to be transparent. If you come up with a system of government that's too complicated for the ordinary joe in the street to understand, then it's not a good system of government because it has the effect of taking power away from ordinary joe and transferring it to the bureaucrats. I also think some things, like democratic principles, transparency, accountability, and cultural identity are more important than economic growth - as Michael Caine said, " I'd rather be a poor master than a rich servant." |
Sure i can see it from the other side too. Naturally people are suffering from austerity (imo the tories choice and nothing to do with the EU but moving on) and can see something which presents a possible solution to their woes.
What i do know was the original date we were SUPPOSED to leave the EU was about 1 week before a law was due to be passed by the EU which would of enforced tax transparancy. It looked veeerrrrry much like the tories were trying to push this through to prevent that law and thus put their own laws in place letting them keep their offshore money hidden.
I dont think they have our best interests at heart. Labour im sure also have ulterior motives but historically (bar new labour with the god of war Mr Blair) have always been the party of the working class.
Labour have historically (imo) bought more good things than the tories ever did for the common man (NHS etc)
The tories bought privatisation which has bought little but misery (E.g. terrible trains, energy companies owned almost soley by foreign companies etc)
I dont see how selling all of our energy and train companies to other countries is "Taking back control" yet the Tories oversaw that completly.
Personally i have no issue with immigrants and cant think of an EU law which causes me any degree of hassle. Hense why i voted remain <shrug>
But here we are and thats what matters. So forward we go.