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Old 09-19-2019, 01:22 AM
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whoah momma just found this gem from 2002 http://web.archive.org/web/200202050...om/patches.asp
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Some of these patch notes are amazing, I feel like it's 1999 again.
Now loramin, bear with me, but hwo cool would it be if you go to the levitate page, and see the patch history for levitate and find out that prior to September 13th 1999 you couldnt click off this buff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Yeah see all that patch text is exactly the problem.

Even if Nilbog implemented everything exactly identical to live, down to the day, and even if we have the patch notes for every live patch (as I understand it, different sites have different sets of patch notes, so there's not even one complete set) ... we've still got a "forest from the trees" problem. And there's a very good chance that at least some changes in the game aren't going to be timeline-exact.

Really, most of the stuff in those notes doesn't matter to the wiki. "Levitate: All players may now cancel this effect." Sure if you're bored you could add a note about this to the Levitate page, and I'm not denying it'd be cool (in a very un-cool, nerdy way [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]) ... but what people really want to know is "can I levitate from day #1, or do I have to wait until ____ patch or expansion?"

So what I'm saying we need to tease out is, how many more times were spells/items/NPCs added to the game, besides the known eras. Was there a handful more? Maybe 10-15 more, but like 3 "clumps" with a ton of new stuff, and those other times are all like "we fixed this one glitch in this one zone and now NPC Bob who wasn't spawning before spawns and drops his new magic hat"?

I think this is what's really helpful there:
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For the sake of clarification would you consider 8 line items on this timeline 8 chunks of content? http://wiki.project1999.com/Players:EQLive_Timeline

Nilbogs announcement is slightly different. And leaves room for additions (I mean there were like 1 patch a day for months and months and things wer changing a lot, I wonder if there is a file cabinet somewhere with all those somewhere in a warehouse somehere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

* January 2020: Plane of Fear
* April 2020: Plane of Hate
* May 2020: Temple of Solusek Ro opens / Legacy items cease to drop
* August 2020: Plane of Sky
* November 2020: Ruins of Kunark
* April 2021: Epics
* July 2021: Scars of Velious
* The above list is not exhaustive; each month will have unlocks of patches from March 1999 to December 2001.
From what Nilbog wrote it sounds to me we need to add new wiki "eras" (with matching categories and templates) that we don't currently have for:

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* January 2020: Plane of Fear
* April 2020: Plane of Hate
* May 2020: Temple of Solusek Ro opens / Legacy items cease to drop
* August 2020: Plane of Sky
But again, before I dive in, I'd really like to hear if there's actually 10 (or 50) more times like those where a bunch of new stuff came out. Any ClassicQuesters (or "ClassHoles") want to chime in? Because if so, making those new "eras" is pointless.
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