[loramin]

P.S. By the way, I think a huge part of "the box" around everyone's thinking isn't R&N: it's the players. Whenever anyone suggests anything that isn't races, everyone in RnF dog piles on them.

Of course we'll never even manage to brainstorm a decent idea, let alone work out a functional system, in such an environment. We need threads where people throw out ideas, then other people riff off them and say "that's not bad, but what if we did ..."

As long as all we do is tear each others' ideas down seconds after they get proposed, we'll never get anything better here.