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Old 08-06-2019, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nisrak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
This could make for some very angry people, especially the more hardcore players. I think "that's simply the game" isn't a very good answer, because it can be used to justify anything, including things like 2 people monopolizing a camp for a month strait in the current situation.
Your last sentence is not true, because 2 people monopolizing a camp is not Classic EQ. That's not "simply the game". It's a p99 fabrication.

As for the first sentence, there are countless things in Classic EQ that can frustrate people, but it's irrelevant. The very fact that extremely boring camps exist in the game is frustrating, but we are only talking only about the Classic EQ code here, not how we would ideally design the game.

"Hardcore" (aka no life) players getting angry is far less of a concern than the entire server being worse off, as a result of their greed and tunnel vision. The classic EQ PnP is much better for the game than the p99 PnP. More to the point, the classic EQ PnP is the classic EQ PnP. So it doesn't really matter what it is, only that it is replicated, if p99 is supposedly trying to recreate the code as closely as possible.

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One thing I've learned from Blue is that there are tons of people who care a hell of a lot more about pixels than they do their reputation. Also, my point isn't that all of sudden 2 groups want the camp. It's that the 2nd group is a bunch of scrubs who could never have broken the camp, but can come in, mooch off the hard work of group A, and get half the xp and loot from the camp, screwing over group A. Think, for example, about how this policy would play out for fungi camp in seb...
I know what your point was, but you're missing the bigger picture. Certain people caring more about pixels than rep is their own choice. That's part of the MMORPG experience. People are supposed to be able to make decisions in their gameplay, and other players can judge them as they see fit.

Like I talked about above, what's worse - the other group being able to share the camp, or a few singular players being able to permanently own a camp, and thus warp the entire economy of the server and the opportunities everyone else gets?

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Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I am not even arguing how classic eq operated, not even once in this thread lol
Yes you are, this is exactly what you wrote earlier in the thread: "I don't understand how the PnP is not classic."

Your further responses in the thread have either been iterations of that, or sad attempts at trying to make it sound like the factual EQ classic timeline and policies are *my* personal opinion only.

If you don't understand something, then maybe you should shut up and learn more about it? Your continued attempts at contorting the facts, and what I'm saying, is doing nothing but wasting space in the thread.
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