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Originally Posted by Troxx
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Deezy, do you give your monks CoP. If you did, did they lose it in the process of dying or being debuffed while they were out bringing the mob to you? Were they having the opportunity to have 100% uptime fighting or did they spend part of the fight flopped from the pull? Were you sitting in a bard dps group and/or consistently prebuffed with avatar while the monk team is generally best utilized in a puller group arrangement? Under the right circumstances it’s easy to see how a NToV geared ranger could functionally beat a monk with the same ratios (don’t have their BiS monk specific weapons), but most of those circumstances involve simply benefiting from outside buffs/support and/or simply more available uptime opportunity easily lost because monks were doing that one critical duty that enables the whole raid.
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During a raid I always give whatever buff is asked for. After considering the downtime a monk has, in the past I've asked some of them not to pull and stay on a mob 100% of the time. Consistently monks were either on par or came short.
Yes, I always try to keep an avatar buff on myself just like most of the DPS at the raid. While I love being grouped with a bard, I don't often get to since they're usually reserved for cleric and rogue groups. A monk with BIS weapons would probably more consistently do more damage than my ranger, but that would be an unfair comparison when you consider my ranger does not have BIS weapons. I think it might be reasonable to assume a BIS monk would out damage a BIS ranger, but I've never parsed that encounter since I don't know a BIS monk and a BIS ranger.
I understand why you do not believe equally geared and buffed rangers would consistently out damage monks. I didn't believe it myself until I began parsing every single combat scenario. But in my experience and years of parsing these fights I found rangers were doing more damage. Even when taking into account the monk may have been pulling.
It might be prudent to tell you, if I had a IRL superpower, it is making competent spreadsheets.