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Old 05-28-2019, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Lordgordon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Dont try to justify choosing barbarian.
I can and absolutely will justify choosing Barbarian. It is, without a doubt, from a purely logical and impartial standpoint, the best choice IF your goal is to get to 60 the fastest.

Now, nothing about what I just said was false, and yet I'll be the first to admit that Ogres are probably the uber-race for Shaman. Is that a contradiction?

Nope, because Ogres are the best at 60. They very likely take the longest to get there out of all the shaman races (more XP penalty than Barbarians with no regen to help), but as others have already mentioned, at 60 (with Torpor) regen really doesn't matter.

Thus, at 60 Ogres are the best because their ability (FSI) matters, whereas the other abilities (regen, faction, etc.) don't. But when it comes to getting to 60, Barbarians are the best ... with Trolls as a close second (plus, as I mentioned, they spend a smaller percentage of that time stuck on their butt meditating, so depending on your perspective that might make them better for leveling).

Meanwhile Iksar are just objectively inferior to Trolls IF you can get a JBB ... but if not they're objectively superior because they get more armor and are otherwise equivalent (plus they don't have the large race annoyance).

But also:

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Originally Posted by Cen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Barbarians have a unique shaman racial no other races or classes can duplicate. Polar bear form. Nothing else matters past that
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