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Originally Posted by DMN
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Well, with a couple hours of bard under your belt and as a 2 month veteran of p99, I'm sure your grasp of the issue is adequate to come to some very strong conclusions/predictions.
Not.
Certainly entitled to your opinion and all, but I'm pretty sure bards are going to be a problem on green.
The rule about being able to pull from bards kiting more than 4 mobs is virtually meaningless. On green, without outside help, only druids/shamans/bards will realistically be able to peel stuff off from a bard who who isn't dumb. And even to peel them off you have to find them first.
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Look, I admitted I don't know much about the class and yeah, I've only been on p99 for a short time but I have played a fair amount of EQ over the years. I'd be happy to listen to those that do know more about bards than I do. Your reply was kind of a veiled insult but I'll have the conversation with you anyway if you're willing to share your knowledge.
I made 3 points that you did not refute in this reply so please do so know because I'm genuinely interested in knowing how bards will overcome these 3 things and get out ahead of the crowd in leveling:
- Bards don't get their PBAE DoT spell until level 2
- Bards don't get Selo's until level 5
- Even once they have their PBAE DoT, it does 3 points per tick which is barely above mob health regen rate
I'm not being flippant here, I'd really like to know how bards are going to overcome those three things and outpace everyone else in leveling. For at least one level, bards will be whacking away with their short sword just like everyone else.
When they get that PBAE DoT at level 2, it doesn't get much better for them. It's just a minor damage add at that point because the damage it does sucks. You still can't really kite with it until you get Selo's at level 5. I watched one bard recently trying to mass kite fire beetles in the Qeynos newbie yard with the DoT and no Selo's. It did not end well for them.
What I have trouble seeing is this: If kiting with that PBAE DoT is such a powerful tactic, how come I don't see more of it on Blue right now? My highest level characters here are in the 20s so I've seen plenty of low level bards xping. I've only seen bards successfully pulling mass groups of mobs twice and both times it was in NK where there is lots of wide open space for them to do it in and plenty of social mobs that would join in the chase just by dragging mobs over them.
So please, change my mind. Tell me why I'm wrong. Don't just dismiss what I said by pointing out my lack of time on a bard. Explain to me how bards are going to get out in front of the crowd in xping when they can't even really kite effectively until level 5. By the way, by the time level 5 rolls around, full, balanced groups are going to be able to go into places like CB and BB and xp with better ZEMs and I guarantee there won't be any bards swarm kiting in places like that.