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To claim the server pop is where it is now because of Tune is laughable. People aren't sitting on the sidelines currently because of Apex or Tune or whatever guild may still be raiding here uncontested in 2027; they are sitting on the sidelines because most people aren't really interested in coming back to a server locked forever in Velious that we already played out, to fight for pixels we don't need, with more zones than players, and with uninteresting mass pvp of "hug a zoneline for 3 hours refreshing buffs for maybe 3 minutes of action followed by fighting people while engaged on a mob"

wipe red or make a new pvp server that isn't launched with game breaking chain rooting mage pets with no guard assist and 100x other game breaking bugs that were here on launch, and you'll see 500+ pop again; the end.