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Originally Posted by Champion_Standing
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This is getting extremely convoluted and circuitous. I never said any of those things
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There's an element of fairness to this: when arguing with people for 25 pages its easy to lose track of exactly what everyone said. On top of that, I purposely reference things person A said when talking to person B, because this isn't 20 tiny individual conversations, it's one big one.
But also, I'm making assumptions based on what you said. For instance, when I wrote:
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Originally Posted by Loramin
When you (and not just you, many in this thread) are in "defend P99 competition" mode you're all about how "competition" is what's important, and it doesn't even matter about organizing people to kill dragons.
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I was referring to stuff like:
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Originally Posted by Champion_Standing
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Serious question tho Loramin. What is it about the current situation that makes you feel like you or people you are concerned about have absolutely no chance at contesting ToV or top end content?
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Inherent in that is the idea that we should have competition right? That competition is good, and that only the deserving few who "contest" ToV deserve it? You never say any of those things, but I have a hard time seeing that quote without a context that doesn't assume "competition" = good (with an underlying assumption that only those who "compete" in non-classic P99 games deserve to kill dragons in the classic EQ sense).
So maybe you never explicitly said "competition is more important than killing the dragons", but A) you implied it, and B) other people in this thread more or less have said that, and we're having a larger conversation. So while I certainly wouldn't want to put words in your mouth (that would be dishonest arguing), I also don't think it's unfair to (say) pin you as a defender of "competition".