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Old 02-13-2019, 02:43 PM
hobart hobart is offline
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Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
The left wing as a whole is open borders. Only establishment right wing is open border. You know who open borders serves? Billionaires who exploit illegal foreign labor. That’s who you are supporting.

Want to know why our lower and middle class hasn’t seen a real wage increase when adjusted for inflation in roughly 30 years? Open border people enable a non stop flow of low class workers that drives down wages continuously. All the crime and shitting up our emergency rooms for us to pay for is just extra window dressing for us to enjoy.

Now explain to us how we are enabling billionaires when we fight against this and you support it.
You're making multiple points, trying to combine them, and doing so poorly.

The complete answer would be tl;dr. So a few points:

I'm not for open borders. No one, statistically, is for "open borders". Knowing a sea-to-sea wall (that Mexico was supposed to pay for) is a waste of money =/= being for open borders.

Read what Rep. Will Hurd says about the border wall. He's a former CIA agent and Republican congressman. Or as Fox News calls him because he tries to inject reason into the emotional racist dogwhistle issue, a liberal....

Walls work in some areas where urban areas brush up to urban areas and where border agents can respond quickly. We already have a lot of those sections. I'm for more walls in those types of areas if truly needed, but putting a wall in the middle of Big Bend National Park just to placate the simpletons who support a simpleton President is a terrible idea.

Some corporations (those that employ low-skill workers) certainly love dodging our laws on illegals. You're kinda making that point, so on this we agree. The way to fix it is eVerify, aggressive investigation, wallet-crushing fines, and criminal prosecution for violations as well as rewards for whistleblowers.

As for your point on wages, skips over a lot of factors. Has less to do with immigration than other issues.