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Originally Posted by branamil
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Hey no offensive but you're pretty dumb. There's at least 5 that need 50+ not including the unkillable shit
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I've done it. And I've done it with worse gear than is the norm on P99 today. It isn't done because it doesn't have to be done. The guilds were VERY guild oriented. The goal wasn't to get pixels for players, it was to get pixels for the guild. Selling or giving any loot received in a raid to an alt was the quickest way to get de-guilded. You offered it up in the guild first and only after absolutely no one else wanted it could you dispose of it. Keeping the numbers down geared everyone up for the next expansion. Having 150 or 200 in the guild would never work. It was kept small for a reason.
I recently saw a video on the Sleeper kill on Agnarr. They did it with around 25 people (maybe less, you never saw them all). That is exactly how everything was done. When Luclin came out we did the server-first kill of Seru, with 24 people. (Don't get me wrong, that bastard wiped us repeatedly before we finally succeeded, we didn't just walk in and kill him first try)
Remember, these were rather exclusive guilds. No alts, no shared toons, one character per player, and no one under level 60. They carefully limited their numbers to only the classes they needed and while for clerics like me it was a bit easier (there weren't a lot of clerics back then to start with and level 60 clerics were pretty damn rare) every other class had a ridiculous time getting in and only then when a spot came open. There was always a long list of applicants and very few were invited.
So yeah, it can be done and has been done. We only had 8 clerics total in the guild and the only time we used them all in a rotation that I can remember was during Luclin (Srra basement cycle).
What you have now is exactly the opposite. Even Aftermath will take any level 55 who comes along. Anything to boost the numbers and get more chances that someone answers the bat phone when something pops. Truth is it's almost necessary given the race to every spawn, so I'm not knocking them for it, but it's not classic. If we wanted to do ToV on Thursday instead of Wednesday, we did.
I know for sure the first time I saw a raid with more than 7 groups was after I took a six month break and came back. The new guild I was in was killing the Plane of Fire thing and there were 83 people there. I couldn't believe the number was correct.