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Old 12-21-2018, 12:32 PM
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I dont get mad at a dog for barking, but i've listened to quite a bit of critique about how alot of this family busting, and promoting of the "nobility" of single motherhood started as a concerted effort of using government subsidies to incentivize black women using black men as disposable sperm donors with the support of the welfare/child support system. Once proven successful in the black community, this effirt was then expanded to include the rest of us.

If we abolished child support, and withheld welfare stipends for only the most abject cases of need, such as widowing, or unavoidable incarceration, I think we could turn the trending phenomenon of single motherhood around, but why would the government do that?

From what I understand the government generally takes a rake of 2 to 3% on monthly child support withholding garnished for mothers. Sure, occasionally the law decides against and for the father in cases where extreme neglect can be proven, but by and large the feminine priveledge is still very much alive in our family court system, so I dont see this changing.

Furthermore, why would it change? Strong nuclear families are much more difficult to indoctrinate.
im disinclined to ascribe terrible social policy to some sort of conspiracy. the issue of single-motherhood is a problem that is not easily solved. i think subsidizing it is morally wrong from an humanist perspective, but we don't want children starving either.

I seriously doubt that any woman is more inclined to behave irresponsibly because she
thinks the state will just take care of her. that's a silly argument. what is true though is that in the absence of state susbsidy there would be greater social pressure on women and more importantly men to behave responsibly. men are responsible for providing for their children and women are responsible for selecting responsible men to father their children.

Men and women are inherently irresponsible though, so what do we do? shame men and women for destructive behavior rather than exalting it and dismissing the consequences. social pressure needs to be amplified to a level that it provides sufficient deterrent or we end up the the dreary world of state-sponsored solutions, which ultimately demand surrender of liberties.
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