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Old 12-20-2018, 03:24 AM
wagorf wagorf is offline
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Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Since I love this kind of debate, i’ll elaborate some more on my thought process.

The major advantage of allure is that it’s cheaper. Other than the fact that is has a lower mana cost, it also has a longer potential run time, which also makes it cheaper in the long run.

There are a number of advantages to Boltran’s from my perspective that outweigh the mana cost, including: shorter cast time, ability to cast within a stun (which can allow you to free up a spell slot, or make different choices in which mezzes you use), reduce chances for interrupts, and you can charm higher level pets without concern

Once you start regularly dealing with summoning mobs, the standard root all potential targets protocol is no longer effective means of CC because they will summon you. This, during a charm break, you have to deal with two mobs at once. Remezzing both using a si for target mez is ineffective because of interrupts, so you are likely using mesmerization or fascination, and there is a decent chance you Blur one or both mobs which may result in regen in some zones. Keep in mind, you are still using the same basic process to get to this point - pbaoe -> tash -> pbaoe -> recharm versus pbaoe -> mez -> tash -> recharm.

In short - you have the same amount of steps, but IMO, less risk by using Boltran’s. If you are regularly dealing with non-summoning mobs, your strategy is effective. But summoners change the game and forced me to change my game to deal with them effectively. Because my mana pool can support it, I only rarely run allure now - because Boltran’s gives me more flexibility (I don’t necessarily even need to run a single target mez).
Every chanter knows dealing with summoning mobs u go with boltrons, this has nothing to do with "risk" but because there is a high chance allure wont work cuz of level restriction - bottomline there is absolutely no reason to use boltrons when mobs are 51 or below

Of the 4 "advantages" you listed 2 are given (shorter cast time and charm higher level mobs) 2 are duplicates (able to cast within a stun and not getting interrupted is the same). Why do I need a shorter cast time when allure can be casted within a stun as well? If the mob is 52+ then there is NO CHOICE but to use boltrons, this does not mean boltrons is better, it is because you have no other options. If I am going to charm a bok knight I'm going to use allure, boltron has ZERO advantage.

Also, the only difference in handling charm breaks with and without summoners is AE mez. Everquest and enchanter is not rocket science.
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