nice gish gallop
lots of false equivalences, but i'll break it down one by one
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So because you think someone is in the process of becoming a fascist, you punish them the same way you would an actual genocidal fascist?
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you don't take antifascist action against someone who is "in the process of becoming", they already are if they're performing fascist actions.
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What if they evolve into something else entirely?
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if they change their mind of fascism, you buy em a beer, and make a friend
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Are you really so confident on how a person becomes a genocidal maniac?
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yes, we have historical proof to show us.
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By your same logic we should lock up every black male before they turn 18.
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the claim that black male violence is on par with systematic violent removal of undesirables is telling
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You could argue that any conservative is a future Nazi or any leftist is a future Communist.
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yeah, they could be. that's what radicalization is. they could also change their mind. which is the goal. fascism is a choice.
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Should we imprison leftists for speaking about wealth inequality because they're starting to sound like Communists?
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nope. there's no crime in believing inequality is an issue and that a system that allows that inequality is bad.
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Have you not seen Minority Report before?
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i have, one of my favorite movies. wanted those 2 finger gloves as a teen.
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Also, these actions are all being carried out by a mob, without leadership. Mobs are incredibly unreliable and stupid. I'm actually amazed Antifa hasn't accused itself of being fascist.
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antifa isn't a group. it's localized, unorganized, but united in purpose.
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An American flag is a fascist symbol now? Really?
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like a stalker saying "i love you" every 10 mins, the content of the message nor the act of the message is the problem. it's the effect of the context that matters. the flag isn't the issue. it's the effect him holding that flag at a fascist rally that matters.
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What do you think Antifa is fighting for? Are they not fighting for the US?
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they're fighting against fascism, as implied by the name
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Can leftists not carry American flags? Are they not allowed to show support for their country?
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moot non-argument followup to an argument already covered two points above
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It amazes me that anyone supports Antifa at this time.
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it's a response and counter to fascism. if fascism didn't exist, neither would antifa.
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If you really think fascism is a problem, Antifa isn't the solution. At least not now. If anything, it's going to push us further into fascism.
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sure, people already on the brink of fascist sympathy might be the straw that breaks the camel back, but if you force them back into hiding, you attempt to stop them from capitalizing on it.
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For fuck sake, Antifa was blamed for the Reichstag Fire and pushed people to give the Nazis power in Germany.
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false flag is a tough thing to overcome, can't really be avoided, but it doesn't mean you should do nothing.
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So if anyone needs to learn history, it's Antifa.
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see point above