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Originally Posted by Euinki Angel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone i know h8ted and still h8s obummer and care.

To be quite Frank, i think the news did dig into him especially on the war stuff. But i also wasn't heavily invested in politics or political news 2008-15. So i can't really weigh in too much.

Obama did rise above the fake news and Kenyan/ birtherism stuff and didn't engage the press with negativity and "fake news" tears every other story.

I personally don't think Obummer did a good job. He let the Republicans and his own party obstruct him. He enacted a bunch of vague memos on how to interpret the constitution via executive order.

I honestly think he was way too moderate because of big corporate lobbies and he cucked out infront of the tea party libertarians. He was a terrible president, and Hillary would have been worse.

Trump and his lobbyists and family members actively participating in official capacity is far worse. Right now right wing media only casually flirts with the idea this administration is a huge mistake because the country will swing extremely hard towards socialism if they admit the truth about Trump and co. Like, i get how terrified the right is they can't really afford to criticize themselves. That'd probably be bad in the long term, but don't throw yourselves on the alt rights swords, they are a bad alternative to holding each and every political leader and lobbyist accountable and to the highest standards.

Just because Trump heads the Republican party doesn't mean he gets to say and do as he pleases without opinions and thrashing from his opposition. He's done more to make people angry and untrustworthy then actually consolidate the GOPs power. People are really up in arms questioning the courts and electorates, and gerrymandering, and even the voting process, all because of Trump.

In my Republican state Senate they lost 3 more seats to Democrats.

He's bad for your party and you should take a lot of what the centrist media says much more seriously. I can't ever make you, just reaching across the isle with my honest and straightforward layperson opinion.

So Obama wasn't left enough wow that's rich. And if Republicans just learn to appease leftists all will be well? What a stupid argument. Emigrate