Originally Posted by Uthgaard
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Camp rules mainly address named mobs, not xp trash.
If it's a named, and you want it, get on it, not around 3 corners, 2 closed doors and out of sight of it because you can pull it easier with the pathing bug in the middle.
If it's a named that can spawn anywhere, you can't really camp it, so it's whoever engages it first.
If it's an xp mob, just share the damn things. If you go pulling from the immediate vicinity of other groups, you're just escalating drama, because then they'll do the same thing to you, and neither group is going to average out ahead in the process. Apply some common sense, decency, and step back and look at the situation. Social reversibility is understood by 6 year olds, don't tell me anyone on this server can't manage it.
As for enforcing it, a lot of times it's he said-she said and everyone has an excuse. The average camp dispute takes an hour to resolve with logs, and even then it's still not a sure thing. And after that hour, everyone present will spam whoever made whatever decision with tells isolating single lines or words from the rules to try to twist the situation in their favor. You can't always break a camp dispute decision down into a single facet. It usually involves a comprehensive understanding of the situation, and in most cases, a lot of guessing over who's telling how much of the truth. And then following that, there's the infantile raging by at least one person who just can't let it go, and then if you suspend them to let them cool off, they'll just start spamming threads on the forums and wasting more time. By the time they've blown their whine wad, we're up to around 2.5 hours for a camp dispute. That shit is ridiculous.
If both parties are acting like babies and equally at fault, I'll eject everyone. It wouldn't matter if we had 50 guides, we still wouldn't have the time to deal with it every dispute. If you need to externalize all common sense, and expect us to come bring it to the table for you, don't expect us to do it with a smile, because there is always more to do, and players who need help through no fault of their own are higher on my priority list than people who 99% of the time are adults and can't act like it.
Fact is, one side will always come out pissed about the result of any camp dispute, and claim injustice, or favoritism, or that we suspended you for something you said in guildchat when it was really the juvenile hate tells you were sending, or whatever else justifies it to the rocks rattling around in their head. If you can't reach a resolution on your own, you really don't have any room to complain when someone else comes and reaches it for you.
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