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Originally Posted by skarlorn
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If it's true that America has covertly caused all the problems which have led to these refugees from shit hole countries, maybe those shit hole countries should have done better at resisting unofficial American interests.
Fun fact, it's not wholly our fault. The people of these shit hole countries are equally, at least, to blame.
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Yea if you want to blame the elite of other countries -- they are involved. Like in Venezula...
Lot of talk about it lately.
When the NYT, Fox, CNN et al. are all talking about how bad a socialist government is, you should probably get to a place in your life where you realize its time to be skeptical. These networks are propaganda machines, and they didn't just decide to find a random bad government to criticize one day to help their people out.
The truth about Venesula is they are doing remarkably well considering the US, Citibank, Exxonmoble, UK are all trying actively to fuck them over. Their programs have continued to work despite the steep drop in oil prices* (they'll tell you the opposite on CNN). In response, the monied interest of that country that used to own the oil has approached the US -- and you can guess which two of these groups the US wants to work with.
Just like the Contra's -- a barbaric group of yokals supported by the rich in their country -- the opposition groups in Venezuela have been:
burning people alive for being black,
killing random government workers,
hording and destroying food to prove how bad the government is,
trying to get the US to overthrow the democratically elected government there -- so they can reverse all the socialist policies.
The upper middle class and the rich, are the main opponents to the Venezulan government. They cultivated a diverse group of tolerant liberals to oppose the government democratically....LOL just kidding. They got a bunch of hicks that hate people on racial lines to try to overthrow the government by force...what planet are you living on where it works any other way?
Anyway, the government is well over 50% popularity... even by opposition polls. So they boycotted the elections to try to disguise the fact that hardly anyone wants them in power.
But all this fact about the success of their programs in lifting people out of poverty, about the enormous popularity of Chavez's policies and the desire to continue them, it gets in the way of a good story about how socialism ruins everything, and the neoliberals need to take back control to put everything in order again.
* turns our the Chevez government was good at using its oil money to create more permanent non resource-based industry at home...which to me, proves he is a more benevolent type of dictator. Your average dictator doesn't do that... they enrich themselves and think short term. Not "what happens after I die or 100 years from now."