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you guys should have a re-read of

Originally Posted by lethdar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From what I understand, p99 logs are fairly exhaustive and can actually tell who agros a mob first. Training was worth the risk on vztz because they couldn't tell unless there was fraosed evidence. Even then, sacrificing a 8 hour to 50 character for raid loots was worth it.

On p99, risking your months invested character for one mob becomes a much more serious deal, particularly when the first few offenders are made examples of in a public manner.

I really don't think you understand what the server will be like with sullon rules allowed. It doesn't matter how big your raid is, nothing will stop us. 100 person raids failed to survive dedicated 2 man train teams on live, what makes you think it will be any different here.

PS this wont only be raids. Its just as easy to get your training jollys setting up res boxes and hitting sol b / guk / permafrost and watching dozens of people lose massive experience (and it will suck hard for those people, as xp actually is hard to get here).

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Originally Posted by lethdar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The player base cannot enforce rules that will stop griefing. You're silly and dumb if you believe this to be a realistic way to discourage people from training your raid / sitting in crushbone and face fucking lvl 5s at lvl 50.

I mean, I'll have a ton of fun training non stop if that's allowed in the rules, so will the rest of a minority of the potential server population who is in to griefing (read, most old sullon zekers, some vztz), however, if you're looking for a server that will last a while and not have 80%+ of the server griefed off... well this obviously isn't the way to go about it.

lethdar is not my favorite person (he got me pudged, bros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ) but i will give respect where it is due. here is a man who knows how to train, can do it well, and would enjoy the hell out of it. but he does what is better for the server. he realizes that it is no fun training a population of 50. less fun for them (the ppl who leave) less fun for us (the ppl who would stay anyway).

i wish rogean and the staff had some way of knowing the history and reputation of the ppl posting here, which would help him discern who knows what they're talking about versus who doesn't. and who has the best interest of the server at heart vs ppl who really dont care.