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Old 06-08-2018, 10:56 AM
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I think when people are frustrated they can have a bit of tunnel vision. OP you're looking at this purely from the point of view, as you said, of someone in:

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Originally Posted by Jokesteve [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
a raid guild who wants to do sky, but raids in the PM and not currently holding one of those PM slots
But you have to understand a few basic facts:

1) the Plane of Sky has to be organized somehow: without a rotation even fewer people will get their epic parts, haste belts, etc., because there will literally be less of them being added to the server

2) it's very difficult to get fourteen guilds/alliances to agree on anything

3) Classic EQ (especially the P99 version) is a bitch. Just as a for instance, I had to farm 130k to buy Torpor (it was more expensive at the time). Would I have preferred to just win a copy in a raid? Of course! I naively joined my guild thinking that was a possibility. But when I learned the reality (that non one wins Torpor on raids) I did something I very much didn't want to do (farm 130k), and while it took awhile I eventually got what I wanted.

So, that's just the reality of Project 1999: all scarce popular resources are hard to get, and as a result often require doing things you don't want to do. Furthermore, when Sky is involved you have to contend with the fact that a fragile agreement was reached between fourteen different groups, and that agreement is essential for ensuring the most possible epic parts/haste belts/Shaman FD rings, etc.

But, my point in saying all that is not to end with "so suck it up." My point is, if you want to change things, you have to first understand why things are the way they are, and then you have to propose something better. And whatever you propose has to look better to everyone (or at least most people) ...

... not just the people in the one guild that was late to the party. Because even in the current system you do have options (pay for epics, join a Sky guild on their raid, get your guild to form an alliance with an existing Sky guild, etc.) that don't involve leaving your guild. So you have to do more than just say "hey EQ is hard for me and it'd be less hard if things changed", you have to suggest how the whole system could be change to be better for everyone. Not because "it's the right thing to do", but because you won't succeed in changing things otherwise.

If you can do that I think you'll have much more success.
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